CGTN Reporter Charles Xia: For more discussion on the China-US trade and economic relations, I’m joined by Denis Depoux, Global Managing Director at Roland Berger. Hello sir, so you've been here the entire morning and you went to all the sessions. Have you got any valuable insights when it comes to China-US relations and the future of the economic ties of them? Denis Depoux: Well, obviously the China-US relationship has been bad in the last two, three years that resulted in tariffs, in company bans, in technology restrictions. This is all bad but can be managed. What has been very difficult to manage for companies is the unpredictability, is the uncertainty around what is the next move, what is the next chaotic move by the Trump administration. So now from these talks that have taken place this week, what we heard is even though there was some let's say vocal statement at the end of the talks, actually the meeting went quite well and were starting a platform to restart normal relationship. None of these restrictions will go away overnight; now everybody is convinced about this. However, there is a platform to progressively resolve those issues. China and US will remain rivals. It doesn't mean that they cannot cooperate on a number of things. It doesn't mean that some of the less rational restrictions cannot go away over time.CGTN Reporter Charles Xia: Right. And a lot of guest speakers this morning said that they recognized the differences and split between China and the US, but they do see a lot of sectors that the two countries can start working or restart working together soon. What are those sectors that you see?Denis Depoux: Well, I think energy is one. Obviously, after President Xi pledged China going net carbon zero in 2060, this is a massive change. This will change our life here; this will change our life everywhere because China is so important in the world manufacturing, in the world innovation. So whatever happens here has consequences everywhere. This is an area where China, the US and also Europe, which has been at the forefront of the fight against climate change, can work together, and for the greater good of humanity, and for some things that basically unites everyone. Because like Covid, climate change will affect everyone on the planet. So that's probably less controversial, still very technology intensive topics that can be worked on.CGTN Reporter Charles Xia: Right. Let's talk more about the green agenda because the US is returning to the Paris Agreement and you were at the session where Elon Musk gave a speech about their strategy. And it's an e-car company, so it's going green. Have you got any interesting comments from the session？Denis Depoux: Yes. I think there was a quite heated discussion about hydrogen, and the hydrogen economy actually replacing the fossil fuel economy. With very different point of view, Elon Musk is actually not really believing in this and going the battery way, which obviously is the way that he's been pursuing and not necessarily favoring hydrogen. My belief is and also what we heard from some other commentators is that we need pretty much everything we got to win that fight. And if we don't win that fight, which is likely, to manage the consequences of emissions remaining at a level which is incompatible with the objectives that have been set by the Paris Agreement.CGTN Reporter Charles Xia: Well, e-car is very sensitive to global supply chain disruption, and this time all the companies are facing this kind of challenges. And when it comes to global supply chain rebuild, what's your suggestions and what should be tackled first?Denis Depoux: Well, global supply chains have been impacted heavily by Covid and still today I mean you have bottlenecks not only related to tariffs or restrictions triggered by the US. You have bottlenecks related to production sides actually not operating full blast in Europe, in the US and even in Asia. And this will take quite some time.CGTN Reporter Charles Xia: Right.Denis Depoux: What's been extraordinary is the resilience of the Chinese and Asian supply chain. So I think gradually this will recede and progressively being picked up by the rest of the world.CGTN Reporter Charles Xia: Thank you so much for your insights. That was Denis Depoux, Global Managing Director at Roland Berger.